Democratic Debate
What do you think? Who sounds good? Who is out of their mind? Who gets your vote?
posted by CitizenPatriot at 11:56:00 AM
Thursday, November 15, 2007
What do you think? Who sounds good? Who is out of their mind? Who gets your vote?
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582 Comments:
holy cow im so gitty rite now
6:41 PM
oh and heres a little goody goody b4 the debate. district 214 (BG high) has been issued to stop the moment of silence garbage after a judge ruled that it can be unconstitutional. i knew this law had no prayer..
6:43 PM
Yeh i am sooo psyched to be able to watch the debate AND chat with elbaum the best of both worlds
6:47 PM
Sam, I hate activist (and unelected judges) who overturn what legislatures (representative of the people) pass!
6:49 PM
Wonder if the Hillary bashing will more severe in Vegas or in Elbaum cyberland?
6:51 PM
so basically, billy the kid, u hate the very fiber of waht our country stands for. lets just idly sit around and do wat the gov wants... b/c as we all know the gov is all mighty and knowledgable and never needs to be checked...
6:53 PM
oh boy this debates gonna be better than the one on tv
6:54 PM
heyyy its big E watup?
6:55 PM
I'm fine with checks and balances. I have issues when ONE UNELECTED PERSON halts the movement of a democratically elected legislature.
Judicial Activism at its worst.
Sam, you may be anti-Moment of reflection, but at least its democratic
6:55 PM
What's up Sam. What happens in Vegas.....
6:55 PM
im so pumped for this...tonight is gravel's night
6:56 PM
Jeff,
How funny was it when elbaum put gravel up on the jumbo tron
6:57 PM
Hey guys! Casper is on TV! Oh yeah..and the debates..
-Y!!
6:58 PM
My prediction: A major victory for BO
6:58 PM
don't forget, obama polls well amongst republicans...means he's electable and he has the ability to bridge the gap between red and blue
7:00 PM
Nice hair Edwards. Worth 400 bucks?
7:02 PM
it was both funny and creepy. i wonder if he just trying to get us excited for tonight. let's get started d-baum.
7:02 PM
yea B-O
7:02 PM
Hil and Obama in the middle on purpose. Front runners get more attention and more quetions
7:03 PM
i believe kucinich will finally come out and tell the world he's really a keebler elf
7:03 PM
oooh, dennis kucinich. what would you rate his wife on a ten-scale, elbeezy?
7:03 PM
oooh, dennis kucinich. what would you rate his wife on a ten-scale, elbeezy?
7:03 PM
Who's this Barack Obama guy? I've never heard of him
7:04 PM
Sorry guys I know you were hoping for Gravel...Don't know why he's not there
7:04 PM
im interested to c if billary gets protected by the mc
7:04 PM
Hillary is the only one in light clothing, interesting
7:05 PM
If Wolf protects hil im voting Republicans
7:05 PM
is it going to start soon?
7:05 PM
Howard Dean YEEE AHHH
7:06 PM
what channel r we watching?
7:06 PM
cnn
7:07 PM
Omkars version was better elbaum
7:07 PM
they are on the honors system to night... no loud bells
7:08 PM
they are on the honors system to night... no loud bells
7:08 PM
Are they going to flat out say no picking on Hillary?
7:09 PM
why does it seem like wolf blitzer is talking down to the viewers
7:09 PM
Pay attention to Chris Dodd...he's developing a backing
7:09 PM
Im having a really nice time
7:09 PM
she looks pissed cuz she was called indecisive
7:09 PM
An asbestos joke to lead off?
7:09 PM
Hilary is a FREAAAAAAKKKK
7:10 PM
funny how they started with Hillary... a chance for redemption?
7:10 PM
Nice and descriptive, Hillary... "They know where I stand. I've been fighting for women and children"...and did a nice job avoiding the question -y!
7:10 PM
yea but Obama is that much better ha
7:11 PM
Love Obama's smoker voice
7:11 PM
im gonna count how many backhanded compliments obama and edwards say to hilldog
7:11 PM
slowly but surely eating her alive
7:11 PM
Love the states Hillary mentioned would be left out...Iowa, New Hamp., SC., Nevada...wonder what those states have in common
7:12 PM
and btw (by the way) elbaum, i wonder who this anonymous is...i mean why doesn't this person want extra cred? haha
7:13 PM
interesting how clinton uses the first three states of primaries and caucuses to talk about who obama is leaving out
7:13 PM
i hope some of the other canidates get to tell us their views
7:13 PM
Elbaum so no bets that hillary drops the skeletons on national televison?
7:14 PM
15 minutes into the debate and the only people who have spoken are BO and HRC...where is everyone else?
7:14 PM
How much does a senator make again?
7:14 PM
its getting heated b/w (between Elbaum) Obama and Hillary
7:14 PM
hillary is flustered
7:14 PM
hillary is flustered
7:14 PM
we got some hecklers in the house!!
7:14 PM
speaking of extra credit u know who this is right???
7:15 PM
an unruly audience member? going back to andrew meyer, are we?
7:15 PM
hey roers
7:15 PM
i like Edwards trust issue
7:15 PM
Elbaum those states hillary mentioned are the states that shes leading in right???
7:16 PM
senators make like 160 thou or something like that and 600 thou for staffing
7:16 PM
slowly but surely eating her alive
7:16 PM
Edwards just burned Hillary..big time.........ouch. -y!
7:16 PM
Hilary is a FREAAAAAAKKKK
7:16 PM
nice guess elbaum haha
7:16 PM
the boys are ganging up against hrc! HELP WOLF
7:16 PM
Barberio RULES,
7:17 PM
joe biden is pissed. he wants to talk
7:17 PM
you were right elbaum they do keep bringing up the driver license thing...its not looking godd and what was that oen guy in the audience yelling?
7:17 PM
ohh hillary just jumped at dean
7:18 PM
ouch...edwards against healthcare for poor in 04. Good point Hil
7:18 PM
ooh cheap shot against the populist hilldog
7:18 PM
Edwards, my bad
7:18 PM
If Biden doesnt rip Hil, then that shows we wants to be HRC's VP
7:18 PM
is biden wearing a wig?
7:18 PM
bad spelling woops
7:19 PM
hill dogg is almost on as much fire in this debate as elbaum is with his lectures
7:19 PM
biden puts his own twist to this
7:19 PM
Hill's laugh is creepy!
7:19 PM
i love how he just shuts up
7:20 PM
Maya S
Clinton... 4 or 5 positions on immigration?
7:20 PM
Flip FloP FLIP FLOp
7:20 PM
No love for Richardson and Kuc
7:20 PM
Why is wolf defending Hill?
7:21 PM
Maya hates ALL OF THESE PEOPLE!
7:21 PM
they won't let it go...she flip flops i think we get it
7:21 PM
:) oh Joe -Y!
7:21 PM
Im with you Gemma. Move on
7:22 PM
edwards is a uniter, not a divider
7:22 PM
Edwards is playing good cop and saying the rest are all just trying to worry about bashing each other nice move
7:23 PM
Chris Dodd, welcome to the Debate 23 minutes after it started
7:23 PM
Edwards is getting kinda phony with his speech, not everyone is going to be a winner. there will only be ONE HIGHLANDER!! im sorry I dont know where I was going with that.
7:23 PM
jeff,
edwards is a uniter? Guy couldnt even carry his home state of North Carolina in 04 when he was Kerry's VP
7:24 PM
Bill Richardson finally gets a word in...yes
7:24 PM
Long live hippie ideals...GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!
7:25 PM
Richardson is a peacemaker
7:25 PM
Now I know why Wolf wont let Richardson speak
7:25 PM
Well Bill. I would love to give peace a chance. Really, I would. Idealism!!!!!!-Y!
7:25 PM
look at how hilarys the only one clapping when richardson says lets be positive because shes afraid of everyone attacking her..
7:26 PM
Edwards knocks Hill with, "is that a planted question?"
HAHA
7:26 PM
Elbaum you arent against peace are you?
7:26 PM
i like biden's humor...it might be too much for the American public though
7:26 PM
This is a nation of laws. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS!!
Who is with me?
7:27 PM
no one speaks better than Obama
7:27 PM
Wait, Obama. Try to catch illegals but give them drivers licenses? hmmmm
7:28 PM
ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION OBAMA
7:29 PM
Im confused now obama wants to give illigal immigrants licenses so that we can put them behind the real citizens
7:29 PM
is obama being a little broad with his illegal immigrant policy? stiff penalties? does this mean deportation?
7:29 PM
lion i was just thinking the same thing
7:29 PM
yeah, and does he really know the probability of being hit by lightening?
7:30 PM
crowd laughs because obama wont answer question
7:30 PM
obama is throwing some jokes... but not really answering the question.
7:30 PM
UH OH Obama might pull a hillary he's starting to tremble
7:30 PM
mr wolf stealing Obamas thunder
7:30 PM
not a very straight answer obama
7:30 PM
Maya S.
OMG! someone should tell them that Illegal immigration is..... ILLEGAL!!
7:30 PM
Thank you Maya!
7:31 PM
edwards keeps blinking and that's annoying but he is aswering the question so that's nice.
7:31 PM
Richardson is about to B-Slap BO
7:31 PM
Wolf keeps tryign to cut him off
7:31 PM
never just a yes from the illinois senator and Hillary a no
7:32 PM
Kuc is to the left of Karl Marx
7:32 PM
There are plenty of illegals because they are breaking the law
7:32 PM
is that the guy with the UFO?
7:32 PM
He just wants the immigrants to be abducted by aliens
7:32 PM
Kevin b., have a heart
7:32 PM
This is fun
7:33 PM
why haven't we listened to Richardson on this topic before he knows it works
7:33 PM
I AM PULLING OUT MY HAIR. GIVE ILLEGALS THE RIGHT TO DRIVE??????? ARE YOU SERIOUS
7:33 PM
theres no such thing as illegal immigrants, they're "undocumented"
7:33 PM
they are spending more time on this issue than the host would like... hew is growing impatient
7:33 PM
Tom i have no heart for criminals using our rights against us
7:34 PM
I feel like the question was worded to make Obama look bad. -Y!
7:34 PM
who is this Richards guy because he just rocked the license for illegal immigrants
7:34 PM
i'm liking the senator at the left end
7:34 PM
bidens badder than denzel with that "no"
7:34 PM
Wolf keeps tryign to cut him off
7:34 PM
i feel like it doesn't take a lot to make him look bad..
7:34 PM
Elbaum, just for you!-Y!
7:34 PM
incentive pay for teachers. Our union HATES THAT!
7:34 PM
Kevin b.,
what do you say to the arugment that we're a melting pot? Or the one that we are all immigrants
7:35 PM
u deserve incentive pay elbaum
7:36 PM
Dodd getting a good reaction from the crowd with his education ideas and boy he is full of himself
7:36 PM
elbaum he wants to bump up your pay
7:36 PM
a children's caucus? would that be a specialized caucus?
7:36 PM
and wasn't he the one who said that this shouldn't be a shouting match
7:36 PM
Jeff,
I bet you want them to show Kuc's wife
7:36 PM
hey Elbaum
who r u siding with on this excellent teachers question?
7:37 PM
Tom,
Im fine with immigration, as long as its done legally. Anyone who wants to come can come, i have no problem with them just as long as they do it legally.
7:37 PM
answer the question kuc...
7:37 PM
yea hisham and gemma. Give me more money Chris Dodd!
7:37 PM
i like kucinich
7:37 PM
I think funding schools and providing educators for areas that are way sub par is actually a more important issue. Sure, teachers should be well paid..but what about getting some of those teachers to schools where they're really needed? -Y!
7:38 PM
"im for the unions," said bilbo baggins
7:38 PM
Dougie,
My view is that when you incentivize pay, you have teachers ONLY teaching to the test so they get paid more
7:38 PM
Elbaum i think u and Richardson would be great co workers
7:38 PM
Richardson,
SHS teachers make more than 40k to start
7:38 PM
Richardson is getting a lot of say on every issue
7:38 PM
using the "all american" approach..too bad he keeps stuttering
7:38 PM
-Y! has convinced me to go teach at King
7:39 PM
Maya
Where is the funding for all these ideas comming from?
7:39 PM
Hisham u think Kuc was abducted???
7:39 PM
is it me or does hilary look like she's welling up a little
7:39 PM
Hillary mentioned it ..a little -Y!
7:39 PM
I'm waiting to see who says, "I think we should give iPhones to all teachers"
7:39 PM
wow, this is intense......Their all trying to get a word in. I think i like the guy on the end richards?
7:40 PM
wolf needs to stop talking..
7:40 PM
Elbaum, don't be condescending!
7:40 PM
Uh oh Hillary wants to screen teachers to make it more competitive so that only the best teach us
7:40 PM
MAYA----YOUR TAXES BABY.GIMME GIMME GIMME
7:40 PM
did anybody notice themen all shock hands as they lined up, but when Hillary came no one shook her hand? hostility btwn. the bunch? hey, question-where's Mike Gravel?!
props to Obama for taking the high road about criticism to Clinton. interesting then that he then brought up her opinion on driver's licenses- wasn't that what he had to defend his own opinion for?
health care: Hillary describes that she has a universal health plan, but i'd love to hear her actually discuss her plan, not just promote it.
This is not a debate btwn the 7 candidates, but btwn Obama and Hillary. At least Obama talked about the means by which he will make health care available.
Finally, another candidate speaks. Edwards: discuss war- voting with Bush for war in Iran.
Hillary: Edwards is using "Republican handbook"
Bidden: We don't give a darn about what the candidates say? I don't know about others, but I give a darn. If one of them is going to be the President, I care.
He keeps saying folks- good idea to appeal to the "average man"
Edwards: good use of facts and data- whoa that's a lot of stats to remember. not personal for candidates, about what US needs
Immigration:
Obama: justified in frustration- good appeal "I understand how u all feel"- makes citizens feel understood
Drivers licenses- describes his "flip-flopping". He's good at twisting the question to be what he wants it to be- good speaking techniques
Richardson: like the incumbent discussion from today- he was able to say, this is what I've done to put this into action
ok- this is the longest anything's ever gone w/o a commercial break... next blog comment to come soon
-quick comment- I like all these candidates for teacher and student rights. yea get ride of no child left behind and increase teacher's wage. go democratic candidates!!!
7:40 PM
do i think he was abducted? no why does he claim to have been?
7:40 PM
i'm waiting to see who says "this isn't a national issue it's a local one"
7:40 PM
(Condescending comment from Y!)
7:40 PM
Lexi good call on Richardson
7:40 PM
elbaum- send that question in on the YouTube debates- do u believe all teachers deserve iPhones? that'll get a big debate going
7:41 PM
Pakistan. Remember Obama's comments about nuking them a few months ago??
7:42 PM
its biden's time to shine he's on fire lets see if he can keep it up
7:43 PM
Maya
How does a critical analysis of the Bush administration say what anyone would do?
7:43 PM
biden is getting a lot of tiem...where did hil go?
7:43 PM
Biden's hair is weird
7:43 PM
what happened to obama for the past couple of minutes? hes getting no time whatsoever
7:44 PM
Gemma,
you a Hil fan????
7:44 PM
Maya
How is he going to mitigate the fact that Pakistani government doesn't have total control of Pakistan!
7:45 PM
Richardson is speaking softly but talking up one hell of a game
7:45 PM
RICHARDSON JUST SAID THAT HUMAN RIGHTS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SECURITY....OY
7:45 PM
can he back it up? thats anybodys guess
7:45 PM
richardson where does the 10 mil come from
7:46 PM
60% To the military, huh? -Y!
7:46 PM
lion, what do you think of that?
7:46 PM
well the 60% does go against his whole give peace a chance, and now im worried
7:47 PM
Oh Richardson...-Y!
7:47 PM
MORE IMPORTANT THAN NATIONAL SECURITY
7:47 PM
richardsons getting a LOT of time
7:47 PM
Haliburtin is a bold statement
7:47 PM
Roers, what say you? You a Richadson fan?????
7:47 PM
i agree with u elabaum. richardson putting security as a later priority in a post 9/11 world is risky
7:48 PM
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