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Thursday, November 29, 2007

transcript from review session

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XXXXXXXXX: hi mr. elbaum
jkp4evaeva: hang on a second

jkp4evaeva: ok, what kind of questions do you have
XXXXXXXXXX has entered the room.
XXXXXXXXX: hey elbaum!
XXXXXXXXX: ok..the question is... the numerical superiority of house reprisentatives over senators carries with it the implication that?
XXXX: what #
XXXXX: well, i'll start. #5 from chapter 13. overriding political question throughout evolution of conress
XXXXXXXXXX: 25
jkp4evaeva: Numerical advantage means leadership has more power
jkp4evaeva: overiding question=what will the distribution of power be
jkp4evaeva: between House and Senate
XXXX: thanks!
XXXX: next one, number 15...
XXXXX: thank you!
XXXXX: changes in composition of congress members
jkp4evaeva: more idealogical/more partisan
jkp4evaeva: members while the general public has remained more moderate
XXXX: great! thanks! i remember now that we talked about that one in class
jkp4evaeva: yep, Congress was supposed to embody the will of the people
XXXX: what is the life expectancy of a bill- was that asking for years or for the step in the law-making process
jkp4evaeva: 2 Years to pass or it dies
XXXXX: what is the cloture rule?
jkp4evaeva: one congress
jkp4evaeva: no, cloture is a tad different
jkp4evaeva: cloture ends a filibuster
jkp4evaeva: 60/100 are needed
jkp4evaeva: for cloture
XXXXXX: oh okay, cause number 57 asked about the current cloture rule
jkp4evaeva: A bill has two years to pass (signed by Prez or veto overridden)
jkp4evaeva: 3/5's vote, or 60 senators
XXXXXX: so 2 year life expectancy. thanks!
jkp4evaeva: sure
XXXXX: okay ...thank you!
XXXXXXX: okay those are all my questions mr. elbaum.
XXXXXX: thank you so much!!!
XXXXX: also, #58, which is too long to type in. lol (that's laugh out loud, right elbaum?)
jkp4evaeva: =-O---that's all??
jkp4evaeva: look how they voted on amendments
LovinUAlwayz23: yeah..hehe i finished my review packet yesterday
jkp4evaeva: sometimes, those are the most important parts
CoolJul8: the floor amendments?
jkp4evaeva: of a bill
jkp4evaeva: amendments to a bill, yes they could be put on on the floor
XXXXXX: wait...one more question..number 64
XXXXXX: lol
XXXXXXX: ok. thanks. i figured out all the amendment stuff last night with leg. lingo
jkp4evaeva: in a decentralized system, there is federalism (power of state and national govt)
jkp4evaeva: therefore, there are more people to corrupt
jkp4evaeva: in a decentralized system
XXXXXXX: oohh okay
jkp4evaeva: does that make sense?
XXXXXX: gotcha
XXXXXX: yeah
XXXXXXX: thanks mr. elbaum!
XXXXXX: more opp. for corruption b/c more ppl involved
jkp4evaeva: happy to help
jkp4evaeva: yes
XXXXX: ok. gotcha. that makes sense
XXXXXXX: ill be on later to ask more questions!
jkp4evaeva: ok, I'll be here for a while
XXXXXX: elbaum, do u mind if i still ask u a few questions?
XXXXXX: okay thanks!@
jkp4evaeva: shoot
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XXXXXX: #7, from IG/chapter 11
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jkp4evaeva: keep crisis in the spotlight
jkp4evaeva: they count on the media to keep the crisis in the spotlight
XXX n XX XXX: i have a question on number 40
XXXX: oh, that makes sense- to be effective ppl have to hear about them
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jkp4evaeva: yea..all about information
XXXX: k. thanks
jkp4evaeva: can the new people see the text that happened before you came in?
XXXXX: nope
XX n XXX XXXX: no
XXXXX: r u posting it on the blog later? b/c they could c it then
jkp4evaeva: ok fire away new people
XXXXX has entered the room.
jkp4evaeva: i'll put the entire transcript on the blog when i'm done
XXXX: thanks!
XXXXX: sounds good
XXXX: ok question... the changes brought about by the committee bill of rights in the early 1970s included the right to have subcommitte jurisdiction determined by...?
XXXXX: i think i'm all questioned out for right now, but i might stick around to c other questions and check my answers
jkp4evaeva: what #
jkp4evaeva: so everyone can ply along at home
XXXXXX: 35
jkp4evaeva: they were brought on by the majority party
jkp4evaeva: i mean determined by the majority party
XXXXX: ok that makes sense thank you
jkp4evaeva: that makes being in the majority even more important
XXXXXXX: I had a question about # 36...Describe the recent trends in COngressregarding the number of amendments to proposed laws
CoolJul8: general question. when u r no longer in the majority, if u r a committee chairman do u just one day lose your job?
jkp4evaeva: they have increased, gone way up becca
jkp4evaeva: yes you give it up
jkp4evaeva: committees are chaired only by majority party
XXXXX
XXXXX: that kinda sucks. one day u just have to leave. govn't is harsh
XXXXX: lol
jkp4evaeva: laugh out loud
XXXXX: lol
XXXXXX: haha
jkp4evaeva: you guys know what Ways and Means does?
jkp4evaeva: the committee
XXXX: a lot
XXXXX: raise taxes bills go there
jkp4evaeva: yes...one of the most powerful committees in the house
XXXXXX: is there an equivalent in the senate?
XXXXXX: th senate Finacne committee?
XXXXXX: finance*
jkp4evaeva: not by name. but yes, Finance
XXXXXX: another general question. does the joint committee iron out the differences in bills b4 they go to the chambers or after they go and r voted on once?
XXXXXX: after right?
jkp4evaeva: yea
XXXXXXX: I have a question on #42 What generalization can be given regarding the speed with which bills move through congress?
XXXXX: slow
jkp4evaeva: it varies widely
jkp4evaeva: some bills are on the fast track
XXXXX: oops hahaha
XXXXX: so they vote once, iron out differences, and vote again
jkp4evaeva: like the PATRIOT act after 9.11
jkp4evaeva: most of the time
XXXXXX: ok... thanks
XXXXX: question on 38.. Explain the effects of the growth in congressional staff
XXXXX: more reliance on them?
jkp4evaeva: it's meant more legislative work...yes basically more reliance
jkp4evaeva: members of congress have more expected out of them
jkp4evaeva: remember, congressman get 100k's of dollars for staff
XXXXX: right
jkp4evaeva: that's a new thing
XXXXX: so because they have help now they have more expected out of them?
jkp4evaeva: yes
XXXXX: got it
XXX n ThE XXXX: if you are a commitee staf member and want to know the status of a bill where can you get th einfo form most quicly?
XXXXX: Is the life expectancy of a bill 2 yrs?
jkp4evaeva: one of the reasons why being a congressman is now a fulltime job
jkp4evaeva: what #
XX n ThE XXX: 40
XXXX: 45
jkp4evaeva: Congressional REsearch office
XXX n XXXX XXXX: ok
jkp4evaeva: Life of a bill=2 years (one house)
XXXXX: ok cool
jkp4evaeva: when a "new house" comes in,bill must start over
jkp4evaeva: because there a many new members
XXXXX: what do you mean by new house
XXXXXX: start over in committe or in terms of voting
jkp4evaeva: re-introduced
jkp4evaeva: start from step #1
XXXXX: oh ok
jkp4evaeva: because sometimes there's a new speaker
jkp4evaeva: like pelosi took over for Dennis Hastert, a republican
XXXX: so then all the bills had to be reintrocued?
XXXXX: reintroduced**
XXXXXX: yikes. thats a bit monotonous. that would explain the 2 year lifespan though
XXXXXXX 90 has entered the room.
jkp4evaeva: That's why bills dont get introduced at the end of a sesion
jkp4evaeva: what's up shizzle
XXXXXX: what about #53 Unlike the house, the scheduling of legislation in the senate is whose responsibility?
XXXXXX 90: hi yea i just had questions on 63 and64 of the ch 13 review
XX: majoirty leader?
jkp4evaeva: yes, and minority leader
XXXXXX: both?
jkp4evaeva: they work together
XXXXX: k
jkp4evaeva: with final say going to maj leader
jkp4evaeva: shizzle, 63 is reffering to the franking priv
jkp4evaeva: remember what that is
XXXXX 90: yea congressmen get free postage
XXX n ThE XXXX: increased reliance on staff has made congress more? #39
jkp4evaeva: 4 shizzle
izzle4shizzle 90: hah thanks
jkp4evaeva: made them more individualistic
jkp4evaeva: they dont work with others as much
jkp4evaeva: just their staff
XXX n ThE XXXXX: thx
jkp4evaeva: they dont need other members of congress anymore
jkp4evaeva: or as much
XXXX: I had a question on 64 also?
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XXXX 90: yea the text book is vague on 64
jkp4evaeva: hisham, welcome to the party
XXXXXX: thanks
jkp4evaeva: someone help shizzle on 64
XXXX: elbaum how do you know who everyone is
XXXXXX 90: yes please
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jkp4evaeva: decentralized is reffering to federalism
jkp4evaeva: state and federal power
jkp4evaeva: therefore, there are more officals to effect policy
jkp4evaeva: and therefore, more corruption is possible
XXXXX: so more corruption is possible in a system liek ours?
XXXXXX 90: ok so basically there are more areas for corruptoin to occur?
XXXXXX: elbaum the podcast is key to my success
XXXXX has entered the room.
XXXXXXX: im nothing without it

XXXXX: stupid wireless internet threw me off. sorry, it tends to do that! lol
jkp4evaeva: yes shizzle
jkp4evaeva: local, state, federal officials
jkp4evaeva: more people=more chance of corruption
XXXXXXX 90: makes sense
jkp4evaeva: talking about #64
XXXXX: what does myrtle think about this
XXXXX: ok i have a question on interest group study guide
jkp4evaeva: i think hisham just came to talk and not for any questions
XXXX: #20... sometimes money affects legislative behavior not so much by buying votes as by ensuring whwat else?
XXXXX: lol
XXXX: agreed.
XXXXXX: lol haha yeah i got the football game on, im not ready to study
XXXX: hisham dont tell peopel that
jkp4evaeva: access
XXXXXX: to...
jkp4evaeva: interest group's just want a meeting with power
jkp4evaeva: either congressman or even POTUS
XXXXXXX: #3 on the Interest groups Questions... List a type of interest group whose representation in Washington has skyrocketed since 1970
jkp4evaeva: money doesnt buy votes, it buys acces
XXXXXXXX 90: well i'm all about studyin right now... so how bout number 13 interest groups
jkp4evaeva: public interest becca
XXXXX: thanks
jkp4evaeva: what's the question shizzle
XXXXXX: #14 on IG- answer is develop and maintain confidence of legislator over long period of time??
XXXXXX 90: the value of info, the power of lobbyists, and thus the success of ig's are greatest when what is ture
XXXXXX 90: true
jkp4evaeva: when the issue is very narrow...usually then it's more complex and out of the reach of most people except for specialists like interest groups
jkp4evaeva: shizzle..make sense?
XXXXXX 90: oh yea that was on teh quiz
X: narrow
X: wait for #14 is it because they need to maintain trust
X: and confidence
jkp4evaeva: yes
jkp4evaeva: yes
jkp4evaeva: reputation is everything in washington
X: k. just double checking
jkp4evaeva: if you have a rep of giving bad info you're worthless
XXXX: #8 The policies of public-interest organizations are predominantly shaped by...?
X: goals of nonmenbers?
jkp4evaeva: elites, or as bayle would say....
X: LOL
X: (laugh out loud)
jkp4evaeva: thanks for the explanation
X: on congress review questions number 10? the most important change that has occured in the composition of the House..?
X: would nonmeber's goals work too?
X: nm
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XX 90: i think number ten is the number of first-term members in the house
X: i thought that it was because it became increasingly more African American?
X has entered the room.
X: i thought it was first termers too, but on the quiz that wasnt one of the answers
X: yes...HiInN they're looking for a change in incubency
XXXXX: i have shift in minorit influence due to differing majorities
X 90: yea i notices that too
X: HIIII ITS SHANAYNAY
X: #9 Who in America is most likely to join interest groups?
X 90: yo elbaum .. can u help us on that one
jkp4evaeva: above average voters
X: ppl from upper class
X: which one. Im sorry
X: i was inviting sha nay nay in
X: hi k question.....# 13:define a marginal district
jkp4evaeva: marginal is when someone wins, but barely---usually with less than 55% of the vote
X 90: its all good... but what is the most important change that has happened in the composition of the house?
X: apparently that is change in incumbency?
jkp4evaeva: there has been a slight change in incumency rates
X 90: right..doesnt that refer to the # of first-termers
jkp4evaeva: a major decrease in turnover
X: ok, I'm heading out... thanks Elbaum... bye everyone!
X 90: so more new members?
jkp4evaeva: no, less new members
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X 90: ahh
jkp4evaeva: decrease in turnover
jkp4evaeva: like we talked about in the FRQ
jkp4evaeva: because of gerrymandering, pork, etc
X: The most important change that has occurred in the composition of the House in this century is that it there has been a decrease in turnover?
X: does that make sense
X: ok, elbaum i g2g study for this and another test, but i'll check the blog tonight to c what i missed and come back with anymore questions i have. thanks so much for all your help! we should make this a tradition for every test...
X 90: oh wait... i read the book wrong... its more difficult for new members to join
X: thanks again! c u tomorrow!!!!
X has entered the room.
jkp4evaeva: JZ in the house
X: #58: if you wanted to know what memebr of congress really though about a bill, you would be best advised to look at how he or she voted on what?
X has left the room.
jkp4evaeva: how they voted on amendments
X n ThE X: when a bill passes the house and senate in substantially diffrent forms the diffrences are resolved where? #60
BabbYBunnY05: thank:-)
X: conference
jkp4evaeva: yana, that would show whether they wanted the bill to pass or not
jkp4evaeva: Catie, what qtl a-z entertainment said
X n X X: huh?
X: LOL again
X: #5. what has been the overriding political question throughout the evolution of congress?
jkp4evaeva: conference committee is a joint commitee that irons out the differences so the bill passes in IDENTICAL form to the president
jkp4evaeva: make sense?
X: by the wya.. glim really thinks a-z is coming
jkp4evaeva: overiding question- what should the distribution of power be between house and senate
jkp4evaeva: also, what exactly does the elastic clause and.or commerce clause mean
X: house leadership has more control...?
X: bc more representatives?
jkp4evaeva: yes, therefore more control
X 90: wait but aren't they supposed to be = b/c of checks and balances
X: elbaum im bout to fail this test i hope u know
X: elbaum im bout to fail this test i hope u know
jkp4evaeva: they can check each other but the senate is still the "upper house"
jkp4evaeva: you'll do fine..the NEXT test is the hard one
X: y
X: ?
X: why what is the next test
X 90: right... but you just said yes to a question asking if the house had more control...
jkp4evaeva: house LEADERSHIP has more control
X 90: oh ok.. sorry for being difficult
jkp4evaeva: speaker more powerful than president pro tempore
X 90: haha
jkp4evaeva: you're not difficult
jkp4evaeva: :-)
X: can you explain the commerce/elastic thing
X 90: ok so, the house leadership has more control, but the senate is still the upper house, but the leader of the house has more power than the leader of the senate?
jkp4evaeva: sure...the commerce clause and elastic clause give congress unspecified power
jkp4evaeva: both clauses are vague
jkp4evaeva: they could mean nothing or everything
jkp4evaeva: commerce: power to regulate interstate commerce
X: ok got it
X: and where are they again
jkp4evaeva: constitution
X: well obviously
jkp4evaeva: yes to your last question izzle
X: which part again haha
izzle4shizzle 90: ight thank you sir
jkp4evaeva: article i ellis
X: thanks
jkp4evaeva: section 8
jkp4evaeva: clause 18
QtLS11: haha so specific thanks!
X: wait whats the role of the interest groups, 1. concept of federalism, weakening of political parties???? that
jkp4evaeva: commerce is clause 3
X: wuts the 3rd one?
jkp4evaeva: of section 8
jkp4evaeva: wait,you're asking why they're powerful yana?
jkp4evaeva: 3. 1st amendment
X: no like what's the point of having them?
jkp4evaeva: so private citizens can advocate for a specific issue that they feel is important
jkp4evaeva: like MADD (mothers against drunk drivers) fighting for tougher DUI laws
X: ok then so what do they do?
X: they lobby for laws to prevent drunk driving
jkp4evaeva: try to convince (lobby) congressman/leaders to be on their side and pass laws
X: 17.According to scholarly evidence, does PAC money buy votes in congress
jkp4evaeva: sketchy, at best
jkp4evaeva: PAC money is OVERATED
jkp4evaeva: as far as buying votes
jkp4evaeva: it buys access
X: for the frq u said u gave us 3 things for the role of interest groups, i don't get it
jkp4evaeva: money gets you meetings
X 90: okk
X 90: thanks
jkp4evaeva: possible FRQ's....1:incumbency 2: House v. senate 3. Why interest groups are powerful 4. divided govt 5. what interest groups do
jkp4evaeva: #5 is that activity you did with partners
X: yea that!!!
izzle4shizzle 90: hey we didnt get an activty
Bballjet34: huh?
Bballjet34: what activity?
QtLS11: with the 26 things?
jkp4evaeva: that sheet in your packet where you put a #1 or #2 next to each tactic
jkp4evaeva: that's as close to an in class activity as I get
izzle4shizzle 90: ohhhh i would call that..a worksheet
X: ok thx Mr.E cya 2morrow
jkp4evaeva: fair enough
jkp4evaeva: by Catie
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X: whats 3 on the interest groups. list a type of interest group whose rep in Wahsington has skyroketed since 1970
X: institutional
X 90: isnt that public interest?
jkp4evaeva: public interest group
jkp4evaeva: you guys got anything else?
X 90: i think i'm all set thanks elbaum
jkp4evaeva: ok good
X: me too
X: thanks elbs see you tomorrow
X 90: see you in the morning
jkp4evaeva: see you later
X: um 23 oThe federal regulation of lobbying act of 1946 required groups and ind seeking to infleuence
QtLS11: ps i'm coming to glim's party
X: legistlation on what
jkp4evaeva: hang on just got another request
X has entered the room.
jkp4evaeva: register with the federal government and file quarterly reports
jkp4evaeva: JZ, make sense?
X: not quite
jkp4evaeva: that's if you're a PAC, which is if a group has over 1000 dollars in assets
X: i dont understand wut a discharge petition is
jkp4evaeva: interest groups have to register, and tell the govt what they are spending their money on
jkp4evaeva: to make sure there is no bribery going on or anything
X: it like stalls the bill
X: k
jkp4evaeva: jz, does that make sense?
jkp4evaeva: discharge petition gets a bill out of committee
jkp4evaeva: sometimes a committee chairman will let a bill sit in committee and try to stall...if enough congressman/senators want, they can force it out of committee
X: onto the floor?
jkp4evaeva: yes
jkp4evaeva: for debate and maybe to get passed
jkp4evaeva: does that makes sense?
X: yep thank you
jkp4evaeva: I'm not sure who HiInNa is
X: grace.. haha sry
jkp4evaeva: oh hey grace!
X: :]
X: hi
X 90 has entered the room.
jkp4evaeva: i knew you'd be back izzle
X 90: ? 8.The policies of public interest organizations are predominantly shaped by _______
X 90: sorry i just couldnt get enough gov in my life
jkp4evaeva: elites
X: saw that
X: :-)
HiInNa123: To be effective, purposive membership organizations count on what?
jkp4evaeva: what # so everyone can see
X: allowing bills to be debated on open instead of restrictive rules
X: #7 on interest groups
X: why is that
jkp4evaeva: keeping crisis in the spotlight
jkp4evaeva: more atttention=more chance of success
jkp4evaeva: hisham what q
X: idk it was on the qyuz
X: quiz*
X has left the room.
X: it was like for what reason are bulls alowed on open restrictiver rules instwead of closed ones
X 90: oh i wrote that ? from the quiz down .. the answer was "gives greater control to committees"
X: bills*
jkp4evaeva: yep
jkp4evaeva: committees have more power to have influence on the bill
jkp4evaeva: in open rather than closed
X: mmk
jkp4evaeva: dont know that one
jkp4evaeva: mmk
X 90: oh and what is the ways & means committee exactly
X: mmk is like oh k
X: jeez elabum
X: did they not have aim in college
jkp4evaeva: ways and means committee is where tax bills start in the house
jkp4evaeva: one of the most powerful in house
X 90: yea thats what i htought
X 90: but something on the quiz was like "particular party and

2 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ughhh, Mr. Elbaum!!
I miss your class :(

4:02 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This would have helped a lot more last year

11:19 AM

 

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